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Boblet
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Update?

I was bored. Some places in need of updating. Either due to IC reasons or OOC reasons

--Town Green--
Dragon Claw Tavern - Current description states it as being on the southern end of the Town Green just north of the Park. Which makes a lot of sense based on the original map of Ramsalon when the Town Green was north of the Park. Now, the Park is on the North side of the Town Green....you can see the dilemma.

--Haven Croft--
Haven Croft - states it rises over the river to the north and the ocean to the south. Kind of true but a bit misleading, well to me anyways. From that description, it gives me the impression that the Habrin flows east-west rather than north-south.
Kanestronia Plaza - the first sentence of the description just sounds a bit off. Plus a typo. Just needs a little polish
White Rose University - has no description

--Wayward Ho--
Traders Pier - Is the Narwhal ship of super importance that it deserves to be part of the description?
Seashore - The map shows piers going the full length of Wayward Ho. Does the map or the description need some rework, considering most of these piers are the large type to handle the larger sailing vessels. Or do we need to remove a pier to make a map spot for the "scenic lookout" location?

--Court of Heroes--
Cavum - Can't speak for SH Order's toon, Rob Cearbhall, but I do know that Griffith left back for Grom. Might want to change that part in the description.
Tailoring Shop - Just needs a description

--Shinkantown--
Shinkantown - Oh the description of it's location is so...so misleading. Definitely needs some rework.
Herbs and Acupuncture Shop - Just needs a description
(I assume these four places survived the Naga Nori War?)

--Grand Park--
Sparring Grounds - Has the Grand Park description for it's locale.

--Beth Bow--
Park of Hope - 2 mile walking path. Is that length or just total distance? And if it is large, with the Grand Park so near, perhaps just combining the two and modifying the map to reflect that?
Sinkhole - Says NW corner of cemetery. Is that in the North district? Do we want to move it to a sub-district?
Crypts - Something about the description just sounds strangely worded to me Also, where is it?
Kane Coliseum - where is it? We have the district broken into sub-districts, so which one is it in? Found it, it's in "Housing South". Move it maybe to there?
--Housing North - Description refers to a garage and automatons. Enough said winks.

Okay, that's all I saw. Any detailed or updated city maps in the works?

Edit: changed the title, less presumptuous. Modified a few things in hopes that my usual snarky tone is well, less snarky. laughs As well as clarity.

Jimmy
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yepyep

we'll get on this.

Thank you.

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Note re the sparring ground -

Note re the sparring ground - the sparring ground is a paragraph in the grand park - the idea there is that some of the smaller sub areas of places, like backrooms of inns or the like, can reference the main wiki article instead of getting a one-line or one-paragraph description wiki article.

That way there's some meat to it, and the smaller sub-areas are placed in context. Also means we can make temporary rooms for a specific session (the sledding hill!) and treat them as sub-area rooms that don't get their own description. Then just let the archive script clean them up a year later when they're done without worrying about maintaining more than that main article. Reduces workload in the long run.

The sparring ground may see enough use/history to get it's own article though, dunno. But at least for backrooms of inns and the like that let's us just build the rooms as needed. I guess the best way to do that is to add a bolded line and then list the subroom's info under that along with any temp context in there? Like taking the "sledding hill" example, it would list "In winter, sometimes -" and let us sometimes have the room and sometimes not. (Still one of my fav sessions.) Not sure what sort of approach we wanna take as a guideline there?

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When I built...

...the Stormhold loc, I didn't include every sub-loc with its own descrip. Stormhold has several levels and several distinct areas within its walls. I just created separate paragraphs for each one in the main descrip. It can make a descrip fairly long, but it keeps it all in one place instead of needing a subloc and descrip for each distinct area. I originally had the various areas hotlinked with HTML so a person could simply jump to whichever area was of interest, Though with the current UI, it does make a long descrip very difficult to read. Even the arena, forge and keep don't have their own sublocs and they definitely see their share of RP. So doing it that way is certainly not unheard of.

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Sparring Grounds description

Sparring Grounds description might have a separate sub area, what I was saying was that in it's sub-room it listed the entire Park description a second time. The other park sub locations do not do that. Thus, I brought it up due to differing with the rest of the Park location style.

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@mael - aye, that's the idea

@mael - aye, that's the idea at least. I'm working on unborking the javascript in the sub menu still but there's a planned follow up to that to try and narrow down the display based on the room title to match the sub-area within the description to get that focus on the relevant bit.

@boblet - that's because the park room and the sparring room both point to the same wiki article for their information, there's no sparring article at the moment specifically for it, it's been rolled up into the main page. So, right now at least that's on purpose. The other sub park locations either had really big sub areas of their own or a chunky description and didn't get rolled upwards the way the sparring area did. If the sparring area really needs more then another wiki page is easy to make and the room updated to point to it - but if it doesn't, then no need to add another wiki page to be maintained. The trick here is to not think of rooms and wiki's as a 1 to 1 relationship. Wiki articles collect the info and don't need to be excessively granular. Rooms on the other hand can be as granular and as many as needed to support players as they RP without adding to the text to maintain. So some rooms may have a mix of rooms with their own descriptions, and rooms that use the parent like you see in the Park area.

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Okay, yeah just thought it

Okay, yeah just thought it strange cuz East Park and Fountain had their description, but Sparring Ground didn't. Admittedly, those descriptions were repeats of the main description minus all the other Park location descriptions. As said, it was the change in sub room pattern that caught my eye.

But its part of the plan, so all is well, as it were. Heh.

Jimmy
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done

--Town Green--
Dragon Claw Tavern - done

--Haven Croft--
Haven Croft - done
Kanestronia Plaza - done
White Rose University - has no description, as there never has been one. It is also another wiki page I have no access to, for some reason.

--Wayward Ho--
Traders Pier - done and leaving the ship as someone may own it or use it.
Seashore - updated to reflect its current continuity

--Court of Heroes--
Cavum - leaving alone as the players may return, and just because someone is gone doesn't mean they don't own it
Tailoring Shop - unable to find its wiki location to update

--Shinkantown--
Shinkantown - done
Herbs and Acupuncture Shop - can get updated ICly

--Grand Park--
Sparring Grounds -

--Beth Bow--
Park of Hope - updated to explain walking path. And the Park of Hope is in the center of Beth Bow, and distinctly different than Grand Park.
Sinkhole - should be part of the crypts now, actually.
Crypts - updated to be less weirdly worded
Kane Coliseum - Center of Beth Bow, so it should remain separate of the sub-districts
--Housing North - done

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And for that matter adding in

And for that matter adding in updates on WRU, and tailoring shops - both had no wiki pages, and wiki pages are getting built out for them now to tie to the rooms. ;)

Jimmy
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yeppers!

Bastlynn explained how to get all that done, and tada, it is done!

Tailoring Shop and WRU have descriptions now.

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Please don't hurt me for

Please don't hurt me for asking the question, here it comes.

Park of Hope and the Coliseum are both center and both massive. Does that mean the coliseum is in the Park?

I'm sorry for being a pain. I am asking partly in preparation of stupidity on my part. points to Adobe Photoshop with a blown up image of Ramsalon City map

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The one is not in the other;

The one is not in the other; AFAIR, they are adjacent.

Jimmy
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updated

both pages are updated to reflect where the other is in relation to the other.

Ow, that sentence just hurt my head.

But yes, both are updated.

Boblet
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Jimmy and Plas, IF I feel

Jimmy and Plas, IF I feel stupid, I may ask for more future details in PM. Gotta see after 18+ pages of birds, if I still have the desire/drive to play with a detailed city map

Jimmy
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no worries

that's completely fine. Updates need updates, and it is important to get this kind of information sorted out.