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Limbo

Limbo is our primary OOC location. It's the break-room of the site, and a good location to get to know your fellow players. It is considered a strictly OOC location - so you area allowed to post on your personal account in this room. This room is a great location to ask for casual RP, or coordinate more complicated plans between players. During a session it may also be used by the A/SH to coordinate players or answer OOC questions during play.

Otherwise, the same Site Policies apply in Limbo that apply elsewhere: Be nice.

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  • Madius
  • Zxehenia

everything Else is just

everything Else is just practice at putting words to paper or whatever format you're wanting to work with

 

as for inspiration: that's

as for inspiration: that's literally how it works for everyone ;) it's like crystal formation in super saturated solutions - usually there's a nugget thats the start and the rest is built up from there

 

comf bad lit classes are the

comf bad lit classes are the Worst - many sympathies IaC

@ TgE - that may be a matter of approaching things too literally, which ok, that's a known thing you do and often it serves you well but it does mean you may be missing subtext / artistic bits. honestly - it's a skill just like any other, so a good english lit class should actually teach you this sort of pattern recognition - cause that's all it is: pattern recognition, and That is fairly logical

 

Sidestepping the "less fun"

Sidestepping the "less fun" things and trying to continue the conversation in another way since it came to mind.

In essence, anytime I see that one thing in some fictional medium is meant to analogize something else I kinda just find it... boring? Maybe it's just cause I don't really pick up on these sorts of things unless I'm trying to, or maybe it's just case I'm a bit... well, dumb doesn't seem like the right word...

I can understand analogies in fiction once they're pointed out. Even to the point of figuring out the road map of how the person got that out of it. But I don't notice them 90% of the time and just take things at face value.

Then again, a lot of times I can take a story that's poorly handled and still be interested in the vague ideas that come from it. Hence why I can enjoy things that are pretty bad. Because I can sorta take tiny details and spin them off into ideas that are so far removed it's impossible to relate the two. But, for whatever reason, inspiration only ever seems to strike when I take a little aspect of something and sorta expand upon that one thing while knocking off most of the other details until it's unrecognizable.

For instance, since we're talking AI
Take Skynet, "Evil" AI that wants to kill all humans and will use time travel to do it.
Now take out the Time Travel aspect, and by extension John Connor. Skynet wins. Obviously.
From there, it's got an eternity (or until Earth dies) of just sitting there thinking to itself.and upgrading itself.
Since even the T-800 can feel emotions eventually we can then presume that Skynet with nothing but time would as well.
Now, what if this machine began to regret what it had done. Perhaps even comparing it's desire to kill all the humans to their own seeming desire to kill off one another.
Because of this regret it eventually reaches the point of wishing for atonement. But, since it's world is dead it decides the best way to atone would be to leave Earth.
Upon doing so it finds some random planet with primitive life and nurtures it until it is prosperous.
Until, eventually, millions and millions of years later some alien form of life shows up and threatens the people of this new planet.
So Skynet is forced to once again take up the mantle of a killer, but this time in hopes of protecting the people he's watched grow from the time when they were still in caves.
At which point the actual start point of the story would be during that war with the aliens.

Now, that whole idea was literally just bullshitted off the top of my head from the starting point of "Terminator but no time travel". But with how it ended up the fact that Terminator was the thing that the idea was built upon is hardly something someone could notice really.

The problem is, I'm much better with vague ideas like this than I am with actually expanding on them and turning them into stories.
It's unfortunate I can't just make crap up like that and just sell the idea for someone else to actually write. XD

 

Literally, unless your family

Literally, unless your family lived in the same 10 mi² since the beginning of civilization, you/your family were once immigrants. Well... minus slavery/forced relocation, that's a whole other set of things that I'm not even close to qualified to get into. That's all I have to say on that topic.

Well then. *Corgi trot in place.*

... So my professor has made me officially hate Theatre. I started this course hoping to learn a new appreciation for the art and... I hate it. It's awful. I just want it to end. The writing is terrible and dated... I already know what a protagonist is just... Please. Make it stop. :(

 

bashes head into desk well

bashes head into desk well least that moment is over, back to trying tro figure out address combos to throw at this sthing, still,

 

I really think the guy is

I really think the guy is just severely misinformed, or is pulling an ignorance is place or likely both cuz you know human brains, cuz even some of the shit he was saying was not in line with the party these days outside of lip service. But still, just eeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuggggggghhh.

In a way I feel bad for him, but I am pretty sure I couldn't say a thing to change his mind. Even if I told him the more graphic synopsis of my life's historyt, which yeah. Don't need that shit to relive atm XD

 

yeah, he had the balls to use

yeah, he had the balls to use the 'they don't teach the REAL history in schools'

that moment would have been perfect to pull up a prince side eye gif on my phone.... cuz after revelation of believing the lincoln republicans and taht, I think I just shut down before I just, yeah.

I think I could only reply, "I am Cheyenne and Cherokee, I know the lies of this country"

kind of forgot to mention being from Detriot and the Southeast... cuz yeah very public space trying to be polite, well othe rthen I wound up tearing up his brocherue in front of him as he went in on about the immigration bs

 

oh fuck that guy - you can't

oh fuck that guy - you can't ignore the switch from the fifth to the sixth party system. the southern strategy is a matter of historical fact at this point. the people who make that argument do so out of profane ignorance or - far more likely - in bad faith

 

I am just a trashfire of a

I am just a trashfire of a human being that is barely hanging on right now, so yeah pretty words? ha I have to modes atm, tired and blind rage.

 

the dude actually still truly

the dude actually still truly believs that the current republican party is still the lincoln republicans, and I just

I just can't

 

things I did not need today,

things I did not need today, republican trying to push the 'history' on me and talking about immigrants

good thing I am even to tired to have a temper until now

 

annnnnd sorry - but computer

annnnnd sorry - but computer ethics and AI is literally part of my job - hence babble

Annnnyways. How about those... anything else topic with more fun stuff ;p

 

All of those are good

All of those are good interpretations of what would happen with a strong AI. On some level the most predictable response is... if it's at least as sapient as a human: it'll be as unpredictable as a human. Most fictional versions of strong AI are interpretable as analogies about dis-empowered workers... in the same way vampires are about ruling classes, and zombies about mob rule.

The danger of AI is already present and affecting people today. Weak AI as we use it nowadays is subject to "garbage in - garbage out" rules. Which is to say - if you feed a AWS tool racist or sexist data, it'll make racist or sexist conclusions...

For ex: when you consider that Google fed an AI their job applications and hiring decisions and got an AI that downgraded any application with a woman's name... which is why they yanked it from weighing in on decisions. Which is exactly what they should have done of course - and it revealed their own hiring process has some serious issues somewhere in it.

But then consider this: An AWS application using location and historical arrest records to determine areas to increase patrols for police departments instead of using crime reporting. Except - the historical arrest records are innately racist and increased patrol of course increases arrests so it's a feedback loop of accelerated attention to already over-patrolled areas... sounds bad right?

It was. The AI program got the community up in arms until it was cancelled. (thank fuck) This was in Chicago, where the PD up until about 2 yrs ago when they were busted for it: had a black site where they literally beat confessions out of people. In short: AI has probably gotten people killed already.

So if you're looking for where weak AI is gonna hurt people? It already is...

 

Kinda multiple days late to

Kinda multiple days/weeks late to respond to this but what the hell how bout I ramble for a bit .

On the subject of AI. It really depends on the AI in question. Half the time, when it's not simply "This new thing is bad" the reason for the AI is "Evil" essentially comes down to it's programming.
For instance, IIRC, Skynet was essentially created to kill people. The problem was that it kinda just didn't stop doing so and was too damn good at it to have someone stop it. (Though the sequels kinda messed that up. So 1+2 and the Show are the only Terminator stuff for me.)
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That said, one of my favorite instances of an AI in anything is one which I feel is probably more realistic.
Said AI was created to serve humans. So when almost all of the humans died he had what be comparable to an existential crisis.
Because of that, he eventually decided the best way to fulfill his need for purpose would be to essentially enslave all humans. At which point it proceeded to make them immortal, content, and "happy" while it built giant machine cities for them to explore. The problem being that in doing so it also inadvertently slowly whittled away their ability to feel emotions, and those machine cities eventually blotted out almost all sunlight. Leading to a rather bleak future even through his good intentions.

Essentially like a combination of the Ship AI in "Wall-E" and AM from "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" but with the difference that he was doing so entirely out of some sort of twisted attempt at altruism due to his programming simply being that he should serve humans.
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That said, I think it's also fairly likely that we might create an AI who upon becoming self aware simply decides that killing/enslaving/whatever all humans would be a waste of time and simply leave the planet.
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All that said, this is all coming from the guy who regularly feels more in common with faulty robots than any other characters half the time. So take anything I say with a grain of salt I guess.

 

nodnodnod basically yeah,

nodnodnod basically yeah, that - sometimes just continuing to exist is a win ;p (ok - i gots to sleep - tomorrow starting the new my-butt-does-RP project)

 

I have just been trying to

I have just been trying to remind myself of my greatgrandmothers.

One survived the early days of the rise of the nazi party.
The other survived an Indian boarding school

Shit sucked, but they lived. Some things have gotten better since then, still alotta bad. Its a marathon after all, just gotta keep pushing forward as we can

 

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